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開発ツール・SaaS Hacker News · 2022-08-19

Mac/Linuxで快適なリモートデスクトップはなぜ存在しないのか?

Why is there no performant remote desktop for Mac/Linux?

30秒でわかる要約
  • 誰がHacker News · 2022-08-19 · 198 賛成 · 214 返信
  • 何を求めているかMac/Linuxで快適なリモートデスクトップはなぜ存在しないのか?
  • 何を作れるかLow-latency remote desktop for design and dev work, self-hostable relays, priced per seat.

元スレッドの発言

“RDP sends draw commands… the default way on MacOS and Linux is VNC which sends all the pixels. I've noticed for years…”

— Hacker News · 2022-08-19 · news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32526108…

背景と課題

痛みのポイント

リモートワークは常態化したのに、クロスプラットフォームのリモートデスクトップはまだカクつき、色が狂い、マルチモニタ対応も貧弱です。

プロダクトの切り口

何を作れるか

Low-latency remote desktop for design and dev work, self-hostable relays, priced per seat.

検証のしかた

  1. スレッドの返信をすべて読み、繰り返し出てくる具体的な場面を書き出します。繰り返しこそ需要の密度です。
  2. 「remote work / protocol」関連の既存ツールを調べ、どの一部分しかカバーしていないかを確認します。
  3. 一言ランディングページを作り、Hacker News に投稿して価格を聞く人が現れるか見ます。

既存の選択肢

Parsec, Sunshine+Moonlight, Jump Desktop

スレッドの声 · 人気コメント

I noticed that remote desktop from Linux to Mac (with Remmina) is much slower than Linux to Windows 10. It's definitely RDP on Windows, maybe it's VNC on the Mac. No idea about the performances of a remote Linux desktop because I connect to remote machines with ssh and use only the command line. It's maybe 25 years since I run remote X11 applications to my local server. There are other apps like NoMachine and TeamViewer. I never used them with a remote Mac.

— pmontra

For the slowness of Linux > Mac. I'm not sure if this helps, but I always had better performance from the freerdp2 nightly and remmina next repositories. At least on Ubuntu, looking at the package website for 22.04 freerdp is at version 2.6.0. However 2.8.0 is available in nightly. I've been using the nightly branch for 6 or 7 years now and have rarely ran into issues. In fact our entire company runs nightly due to using the latest bastions and gateways servers that sometimes the version in the main repository do not support yet.

— romeoblade

Circa 1995 the physics department I was studying at received a grant from Microsoft and Intel to buy a large number of x86 workstations, first most of them were running Windows NT but the only people who would use NT were another grad student who liked Windows and me who would use vnc to log into a Linux computer without competing for one. That grad student and I argued about many things, one of which was the relative merits of X windows and RDP and he was right about that one. RDP was written with the X Windows experience in mind and it performs much better. Compressors for the X protocol wer

— PaulHoule
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