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獨立開發與工具 Hacker News · 2022-08-19

Mac/Linux 上為什麼沒有一個流暢的遠程桌面?

Why is there no performant remote desktop for Mac/Linux?

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  • 誰在提Hacker News · 2022-08-19 · 198 贊 · 214 評
  • 想要什麼Mac/Linux 上為什麼沒有一個流暢的遠程桌面?
  • 能做成什麼面向設計/開發場景的低延遲遠程桌面(自建中轉 + 硬件編碼),按座位收費,主打 Mac↔Linux。

原帖原話

“RDP sends draw commands… the default way on MacOS and Linux is VNC which sends all the pixels. I've noticed for years…”

“Windows 的默認方式是 RDP,發的是繪圖指令;Mac 和 Linux 基本是 VNC,發的是全像素。我多年來都能遠程辦公,但體驗差得明顯。”

— Hacker News · 2022-08-19 · news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32526108…

需求背景與痛點

痛在哪

遠程辦公常態化,但跨平臺遠程桌面依舊卡頓、配色失真、多顯示器支持差。

可以做成什麼

能做成什麼

面向設計/開發場景的低延遲遠程桌面(自建中轉 + 硬件編碼),按座位收費,主打 Mac↔Linux。

怎麼驗證它

  1. 讀完原帖的評論區,把重複出現的具體場景記下來——重複次數就是需求的密度。
  2. 搜索「遠程辦公 / 協議」相關的現有工具,確認它們只覆蓋了哪一環。
  3. 用一句話落地頁,投回 Hacker News 或同類社群,看有沒有人主動問價格。

已有方案與差異

Parsec、Sunshine+Moonlight、Jump Desktop

社區原聲 · 熱門評論

I noticed that remote desktop from Linux to Mac (with Remmina) is much slower than Linux to Windows 10. It's definitely RDP on Windows, maybe it's VNC on the Mac. No idea about the performances of a remote Linux desktop because I connect to remote machines with ssh and use only the command line. It's maybe 25 years since I run remote X11 applications to my local server. There are other apps like NoMachine and TeamViewer. I never used them with a remote Mac.

— pmontra

For the slowness of Linux > Mac. I'm not sure if this helps, but I always had better performance from the freerdp2 nightly and remmina next repositories. At least on Ubuntu, looking at the package website for 22.04 freerdp is at version 2.6.0. However 2.8.0 is available in nightly. I've been using the nightly branch for 6 or 7 years now and have rarely ran into issues. In fact our entire company runs nightly due to using the latest bastions and gateways servers that sometimes the version in the main repository do not support yet.

— romeoblade

Circa 1995 the physics department I was studying at received a grant from Microsoft and Intel to buy a large number of x86 workstations, first most of them were running Windows NT but the only people who would use NT were another grad student who liked Windows and me who would use vnc to log into a Linux computer without competing for one. That grad student and I argued about many things, one of which was the relative merits of X windows and RDP and he was right about that one. RDP was written with the X Windows experience in mind and it performs much better. Compressors for the X protocol wer

— PaulHoule
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常見問題

「Mac/Linux 上為什麼沒有一個流暢的遠程桌面?」這條需求來自哪裡?
這條需求來自 Hacker News 的公開討論,原帖發佈於 2022-08-19,目前有 214 條回覆,屬於「獨立開發與工具」方向。完整上下文:https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32526108
海外用戶具體在抱怨什麼?
Windows 的默認方式是 RDP,發的是繪圖指令;Mac 和 Linux 基本是 VNC,發的是全像素。我多年來都能遠程辦公,但體驗差得明顯。 遠程辦公常態化,但跨平臺遠程桌面依舊卡頓、配色失真、多顯示器支持差。
這個需求可以做成什麼產品?
面向設計/開發場景的低延遲遠程桌面(自建中轉 + 硬件編碼),按座位收費,主打 Mac↔Linux。
現在有哪些替代方案?
已知的相關方案:Parsec、Sunshine+Moonlight、Jump Desktop。這些方案通常只覆蓋其中一環,完整流程仍需人工銜接,因此仍留有切口。

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