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Dev Tools & Micro-SaaS Hacker News · 2022-08-19

Why is there no performant remote desktop for Mac/Linux?

Mac/Linux 上为什么没有一个流畅的远程桌面?

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  • WhoHacker News · 2022-08-19 · 198 upvotes · 214 replies
  • The askWhy is there no performant remote desktop for Mac/Linux?
  • The openingLow-latency remote desktop for design and dev work, self-hostable relays, priced per seat.

What was actually said

“RDP sends draw commands… the default way on MacOS and Linux is VNC which sends all the pixels. I've noticed for years…”

— Hacker News · 2022-08-19 · news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32526108…

Background and pain

The pain

Remote work is normal, but cross-platform remote desktop is still laggy with broken colour and multi-monitor.

A buildable angle

The opening

Low-latency remote desktop for design and dev work, self-hostable relays, priced per seat.

How to validate it

  1. Read the whole thread and note the recurring scenarios — repetition is the density of the need.
  2. Search existing tools around "remote work / protocol" and check which single step they actually cover.
  3. Put up a one-line landing page, share it back to Hacker News, and see whether anyone asks about pricing.

Existing options

Parsec, Sunshine+Moonlight, Jump Desktop

From the thread · top comments

I noticed that remote desktop from Linux to Mac (with Remmina) is much slower than Linux to Windows 10. It's definitely RDP on Windows, maybe it's VNC on the Mac. No idea about the performances of a remote Linux desktop because I connect to remote machines with ssh and use only the command line. It's maybe 25 years since I run remote X11 applications to my local server. There are other apps like NoMachine and TeamViewer. I never used them with a remote Mac.

— pmontra

For the slowness of Linux > Mac. I'm not sure if this helps, but I always had better performance from the freerdp2 nightly and remmina next repositories. At least on Ubuntu, looking at the package website for 22.04 freerdp is at version 2.6.0. However 2.8.0 is available in nightly. I've been using the nightly branch for 6 or 7 years now and have rarely ran into issues. In fact our entire company runs nightly due to using the latest bastions and gateways servers that sometimes the version in the main repository do not support yet.

— romeoblade

Circa 1995 the physics department I was studying at received a grant from Microsoft and Intel to buy a large number of x86 workstations, first most of them were running Windows NT but the only people who would use NT were another grad student who liked Windows and me who would use vnc to log into a Linux computer without competing for one. That grad student and I argued about many things, one of which was the relative merits of X windows and RDP and he was right about that one. RDP was written with the X Windows experience in mind and it performs much better. Compressors for the X protocol wer

— PaulHoule
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