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開発ツール・SaaS Hacker News · 2022-08-02

ページ要素に直接コメントしたい:「検証」にGoogleのコメントを付けたような製品

A product that lets you comment on HTML elements and share it with your org

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  • 誰がHacker News · 2022-08-02 · 91 賛成 · 59 返信
  • 何を求めているかページ要素に直接コメントしたい:「検証」にGoogleのコメントを付けたような製品
  • 何を作れるかElement-level annotation for web apps, with state capture and Jira/Linear sync.

元スレッドの発言

“Think google comments connected to Inspect Element in chrome that can be shared with an organization.”

— Hacker News · 2022-08-02 · news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32315035…

背景と課題

痛みのポイント

デザインレビューはスクリーンショットと文章説明に頼り、位置が伝わらず、開発者は要素を何度も探し直します。

プロダクトの切り口

何を作れるか

Element-level annotation for web apps, with state capture and Jira/Linear sync.

検証のしかた

  1. スレッドの返信をすべて読み、繰り返し出てくる具体的な場面を書き出します。繰り返しこそ需要の密度です。
  2. 「design review / annotation」関連の既存ツールを調べ、どの一部分しかカバーしていないかを確認します。
  3. 一言ランディングページを作り、Hacker News に投稿して価格を聞く人が現れるか見ます。

既存の選択肢

Marker.io, BugHerd, Pastel

スレッドの声 · 人気コメント

How is this your biggest problem? Emailing an annotated screenshot or attaching to a JIRA seems better because it's more consistent and blends with other processes. What should happen when webpages content changes or goes defunct? Now you're also creating an archive.org... and on and on. Don't get stuck and sink your time into a local maxima. Maybe you'll find a market [of fools] willing to invest time into this exact locally optimal solution, but I predict it will be disappointingly small. The problem it solves isn't broadly substantial enough to warrant a specialized solution. Only one way t

— metadat

Actually, this an ecosystem of visual bug reporting tools that already exists and it's very useful when your other testers/stakeholders are time constrained. These days people talk about user experience, well, this is the equivalent of that for tester experience. It makes it a lot easier to submit useful big reports. When you mandate jira (which is slow even on its fastest day) you then a big report from a 2 second click in an on page tool to like a 10 minute process, filling out all the fields, cropping the screenshot, copying over the url and console log and any network errors and all that.

— solardev

What if the element moves or is replaced in the next design iteration ? I’m not sure you want to be merging and splitting tickets on individual DOM elements to keep the comment history sane.. Though I would be interested in tooling that allows clients to simply create issues by clicking an element and then saving full context (dom, screenshot, url, form state, browser and session) with that issue. Something important is too often missing from a bug report. But then the problem is getting the client to actually use that tool.

— unilynx
元スレッドを開く

よくある質問

このニーズはどこから来たものですか?
Hacker News の公開スレッド(2022-08-02 投稿、返信 59 件)から収録し、「開発ツール・SaaS」分野に分類しています。全文脈はこちら:https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32315035
世界のユーザーは具体的に何に不満を持っていますか?
Think google comments connected to Inspect Element in chrome that can be shared with an organization. デザインレビューはスクリーンショットと文章説明に頼り、位置が伝わらず、開発者は要素を何度も探し直します。
どんなプロダクトにできますか?
Element-level annotation for web apps, with state capture and Jira/Linear sync.
既存の代替案はありますか?
既存の選択肢:Marker.io, BugHerd, Pastel。ただし通常は一部の工程しかカバーしておらず、残りは手作業です。

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